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# 3.2.26 - Senate Transportation Budget Hearing

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March 3, 2026

Senate Budget Hearing: PennDOT — Part 1

**Senate Budget Hearing: Department of Transportation (PennDOT) — Part 1**

**Hearing overview**

The committee convened to take budget and program testimony from the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT). Secretary Mike Carroll appeared with senior staff including Executive Deputy Secretary Larry Shiflet, Deputy Secretary for Administration Cory Pellington, and Deputy Secretary for Multimodal Transportation Meredith Bajka (among others).

Discussion centered heavily on **public transit funding and governance**, especially the **Public Transportation Trust Fund (PTTF)**, transit agency project delivery backlogs, and how PennDOT and the legislature should treat **capital balances vs. operating shortfalls**. Members also raised broader transportation priorities and pressures, including funding structure, project timelines, and program accountability. No votes were taken.

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**Budget context and opening testimony**

PennDOT provided an overview of the department’s budget and responsibilities. Early in the hearing, a top-line figure was stated for PennDOT’s total budget: **$11.4 billion in total funds**, including **$2.8 billion from the Motor License Fund**.

The hearing then transitioned quickly into committee questioning—dominated by the status, use, and growth of the **Public Transportation Trust Fund** and the committee’s concerns about whether existing dollars are being spent effectively and whether statutory structure is aligned with current transit needs.

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**Major issues discussed and Q&A highlights**

**1) Public Transportation Trust Fund: balance growth, “unused” capital, and operating crises**

**Who raised it:** Senate leadership and committee members (notably **Leader Pittman**, followed by chairs and other members).  
**Core questions/claims raised by members:**

**PennDOT responses (Secretary Carroll and team):**

**Key flashpoints inside this topic:**

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**2) PRT and SEPTA: statutory allocations, delivery capacity, and “money left on the table”**

**Who raised it:** Leader Pittman and members focused on Philadelphia-area transit outcomes.  
**Member assertions/questions:**

**PennDOT responses:**

**SEPTA-specific exchange:**

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**3) “Hold harmless reserve,” fund “flexes,” and disputes about what actions mean**

**Who raised it:** Leader Pittman (continued) and additional members as questioning evolved.  
**Member questions:**

**PennDOT responses:**

**Notable dynamic:**  
This portion of the hearing featured some of the most pointed back-and-forth, with members challenging whether PennDOT’s testimony aligned with legislative language and whether PennDOT had fully engaged with specific legislative text under discussion.

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**4) Transit accountability: who is responsible for what (PennDOT vs. transit agencies)**

**Who raised it:** Multiple members, including **Senator Carney** and others focused on SEPTA/PRT.  
**Key line of questioning:**

**PennDOT responses:**

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**Other topics that surfaced in the hearing**

Part 1 was overwhelmingly dominated by the PTTF/transit debate, but the transcript also includes broader transportation references—particularly where members signaled they would carry questions into “part 2” or later segments (the chair sequence and remarks indicate the hearing was structured across parts). Where raised, members signaled ongoing concerns around:

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**Key takeaways for readers**

Senate Budget Hearing – PennDOT - Part 2

**Focus: Transit structural reform, highway funding pressures, federal uncertainty, and long-term sustainability**

Part 2 of the Senate Transportation budget hearing continued the intense focus on public transit funding, but expanded the discussion into broader transportation finance structure, federal fund stability, highway program pressures, and the long-term sustainability of Pennsylvania’s transportation model.

Secretary Mike Carroll and senior PennDOT leadership remained before the committee. The tone in Part 2 remained analytical but pointed, with sustained scrutiny over financial balances, spending timelines, and structural reform options. No votes were taken.

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**1) Public Transportation Trust Fund: structural vs. operational problem**

Part 2 opened with continued questioning about the **Public Transportation Trust Fund (PTTF)** and whether the issue facing Pennsylvania transit agencies is:

**Key themes from members:**

**PennDOT’s framing:**

PennDOT reiterated distinctions between:

The department emphasized that capital balances are not equivalent to liquid, unrestricted operating dollars. Transit projects often span multiple fiscal years, require environmental and engineering work, and depend on federal matches. The presence of a fund balance does not mean the money is idle or freely reprogrammable.

However, members clearly signaled that future legislative discussions may focus on whether statutory changes are needed to better align the fund’s design with present-day transit needs.

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**2) SEPTA, PRT, and delivery capacity scrutiny**

Part 2 continued the examination of SEPTA and Pittsburgh Regional Transit (PRT).

Members again raised concerns about:

Several senators pressed whether project delivery capacity—rather than raw funding—may be the limiting factor.

PennDOT did not dispute that delivery timelines can be long but reiterated that:

The exchange underscored an emerging policy question: Should Pennsylvania focus more on improving project delivery systems and performance metrics rather than increasing topline funding?

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**3) Federal funding uncertainty and risk exposure**

Part 2 expanded into discussion of federal transportation funding reliability.

Members asked about:

PennDOT acknowledged:

The department indicated ongoing monitoring of federal program stability and emphasized the importance of maintaining strong federal partnerships.

This portion of the hearing broadened the frame from transit-specific concerns to statewide infrastructure risk.

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**4) Highway and bridge program pressures**

Members shifted discussion toward the core highway and bridge network.

Key questions included:

PennDOT acknowledged cost pressures from:

The department stressed the importance of predictable funding streams to prevent deterioration cycles that ultimately cost more long-term.

While transit funding dominated the earlier portions of the hearing, Part 2 reinforced that the highway network faces its own structural funding pressures.

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**5) Revenue structure and long-term sustainability**

Several senators turned to long-term transportation funding reform.

Issues raised included:

PennDOT did not advocate a specific legislative solution but acknowledged:

Members made clear that any future transit funding increase discussions will likely be tied to broader revenue and accountability reforms.

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**6) Governance and accountability**

Part 2 included pointed exchanges about governance.

Members pressed:

PennDOT clarified that:

This reinforced a key theme of the hearing: if lawmakers want different outcomes in transit performance or spending flexibility, statutory change—not administrative adjustment—may be required.

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**7) Tone and legislative direction**

While no votes were taken, the tone of Part 2 suggested several likely legislative directions:

Members signaled that funding increases will be difficult to justify without clearer explanations of balances and delivery timelines.

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**Key takeaways from Part 2**

Hearing Recap

**Senate Budget Hearing Recap: PennDOT Under Scrutiny Over Transit Funding, Trust Fund Balances, and Long-Term Sustainability**

The Senate Transportation Committee convened for a two-part budget hearing with the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT), led by Secretary Mike Carroll and senior leadership.

Across both sessions, lawmakers engaged in sustained and pointed questioning—particularly around the Public Transportation Trust Fund (PTTF), transit agency capital balances, project delivery timelines, and long-term transportation revenue sustainability.

No votes were taken. However, the hearing laid significant groundwork for future legislative debates on transit reform and transportation funding structure.

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**Budget Overview and Opening Context**

At the outset, PennDOT outlined the scale of its operations:

The hearing quickly pivoted toward transit—specifically the structure and balance of the Public Transportation Trust Fund (PTTF).

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**The Core Question: Why Is the Trust Fund Growing During a Transit “Crisis”?**

The central tension of the hearing was repeated across both parts:

**If transit agencies report severe funding shortfalls and capital backlogs, why has the Public Transportation Trust Fund balance grown to over $2 billion?**

Members cited figures including:

Lawmakers repeatedly pressed PennDOT on how these numbers can coexist.

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**PennDOT’s Position: Capital Balance ≠ Available Operating Cash**

Secretary Carroll and PennDOT leadership emphasized several distinctions:

PennDOT declined to confirm certain specific “unspent” figures cited by members during questioning and committed to verifying those numbers.

Still, senators clearly signaled skepticism that structure alone explains the growing balance.

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**SEPTA and PRT: Delivery Capacity Under the Microscope**

A major focus was the performance and delivery capacity of:

Members asserted:

The underlying question raised repeatedly:  
**Is the problem insufficient funding—or insufficient delivery capacity?**

PennDOT acknowledged project timelines can be long and that delivery capacity plays a role but emphasized that balances must be understood within statutory and project-cycle contexts.

This exchange signals that future debates may shift from “how much funding?” to “how effectively is funding deployed?”

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**Hold Harmless Reserves and Fund “Flexing”**

Members questioned:

PennDOT provided a specific reference point that as of November 22, 2024, the PTTF balance was approximately $2.3 billion.

The department pushed back on certain characterizations, arguing that how transfers and allocations are categorized matters legally and programmatically.

The exchange reflected broader tension about transparency, definitions, and statutory interpretation.

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**Governance and Accountability: Who Controls Transit?**

Several senators pressed PennDOT on the limits of its authority over transit agencies.

PennDOT clarified:

This reinforced a major theme:  
If lawmakers want different performance outcomes or funding flexibility, statutory amendments—not administrative action—would be required.

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**Federal Funding Risk and Exposure**

Part 2 expanded the lens to federal transportation funding.

Members asked:

PennDOT acknowledged:

This portion of the hearing underscored the broader risk landscape beyond transit alone.

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**Highway and Bridge Funding Pressures**

While transit dominated discussion, senators also raised concerns about:

PennDOT acknowledged:

This reinforced that both transit and highways face structural financial challenges.

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**Long-Term Revenue Sustainability**

Multiple senators raised long-range concerns about:

PennDOT did not propose a specific reform but acknowledged:

Importantly, members signaled that any transit funding increases may need to be paired with revenue modernization and accountability reforms.

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**Tone and Legislative Direction**

Across both parts of the hearing, senators demonstrated:

No votes were taken. However, the record suggests that:

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**Key Numbers Referenced During the Hearing**

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**Overall Conclusion**

The Senate Transportation Budget Hearing was not merely a funding discussion—it was a structural debate.

Lawmakers are increasingly focused on:

 

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